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this play never gets going. dan: false start on seattle. >> illegal snap, center, five-yard penalty. remains first down. dan: key here for san diego is two time-outs and the two-minute warning. they will be able if they stop seattle without getting a first down they will get it back with pretty good field position. ian: if they kick the field goal they still would have needed a touchdown to win the game. either way they will have to make a stop defensively. you can understand norv turner's viewpoint on this. handoff is to forset. he falls forward after the hit by castillo and picks up four yards on the play. steve gregory there defensively. a time-out taken with 2:24 to
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go. 60 minutes will be seen immediately following this game expect on the west coast where it will be seen in its entirity at its regularly scheduled time. injuries have been a big part of this today. forset left with a leg injury. he is playing. if san diego stops them, they should get the football back at about 1:50 to play. he is in trouble. john philips was right there and hasselbeck's path. he will be given credit for the sack. a six-yard loss. dan: that is his second of the day. if seattle offensively has --
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you hate to say shot themselves in the foot but the false start on first down by chris spencer. there is philips out here. and now this sack. and they are playing right into the hands of the san diego chargers. ian: san diego is not go to use a time-out. they will let the clock run down to two minutes remaining. seattle with a 27-20 lead. two minutes to play fourth quarter in the pacific northwest. ian: seattle has the lead 27-20. two-minute warning officially hits here at qwest field. if you think all batteries are the same, consider this:
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ian: seattle 27, san diego 20. chargers still have one time-out left. handoff to forset. forset finally goes down. dan: that was almost a designed
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run around and kill the clock don't go out of boundses to stop the clock heads up play by forset. ian: san diego uses its final time-out with 1:50 to play in the fourth. coming up tonight on cbs, season premieres -- john lyon will funt for seattle. seahawks clinging to a seven-point lead. i want to welcome those of you who just watched arizona defeat oakland. late stages of the fourth quarter, 1:50 to go. patrick crayton fields it at the 34.
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makes his move up the field across the 45 and he is brought down. gresham, the snapper got down the field after the 52-yard punt. in this second half leon washington opened up the second half with a 101-yard kick return for a touchdown. that gave seattle a 17-0 lead. fourth quarter, rivers to gates for the touchdown. they close and washington gives seattle the lead 99 yards on the kick return for the touchdown. that is where we stand right now. 27-20 seattle leading san diego. chargers have no time-outs left. first down at their 45-yard line. phillip rivers over 400 yards passing today. rivers is brought down from behind by bryant. he picks up a couple on first down. clock is rolling.
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1:25 and counting remaining in the fourth. dan: no place for rivers to go on that one. ian: chargers lineup on a second and 8. shotgun. rivers throws over the middle completes it to buster davis into seattle territory and a first down for san diego near the 35-yard line. dan: they are exploiting the middle of the zone defense. down to 48 seconds left. seattle trying to hold on. great throw to malcolm floyd, and floyd is brought down inside the 15-yard line. they are working the middle of the field and floyd couldn't get to the sideline. dan: they have to spike it and gather and huddle up to get a clear play. got to be a spike here.
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ian: it is for rivers and the chargers. 26 seconds left. dan, i didn't want to be the guy to tell you this phillip rivers has thrown for 455 yards, the most passing yards in a game in san diego chargers history. dan: i am happy for him. i am not rooting for him because i am an unbasised professional but he has earned every one of those yards today. ian: on the outside you are happy but on the inside i know it is hurting. 27-20, seattle leading it. dan: he will have all of the records. ian: rivers throwing, incomplete. nobody home. it brings up third down now for san diego, 21 seconds remaining on the clock. he was not out of the pocket, was he. that is what the officials were talking over right now. >> there is no foul for intentional grounding.
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dan: they discussed it. officials got together. rivers expecting creighton on the side of the field to go to the corner and he did not. he went to the post inside. ian: this is similar to week one and san diego had opportunities late against kansas city. the difference on that monday night game they were dealing with a swirling wind and rain. >> five-yard penalty, remains third down. dan: rivers was waiting for the officials to end their discussion and the play clock was running the whole time. that is a poor job of officiating right there. ian: san diego just absorbed a delay of game as rivers was watching the conversation between the officials. third and 15 for the chargers.
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21 seconds left. san diego down by seven. rivers throwing and incomplete. trying to get it to antonio gates, and it was roy lewis over there to make the play for seattle. fourth down, san diego. dan: number 34 is lewis. he has gates man-to-man. gates going all the way to the end zone for one of those back shoulder throws. no interference on lewis. this is the ballgame. ian: 15 seconds remaining, fourth down for the chargers trailing by a touchdown. fans are on their feet.
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intercepted! it is over! earl thomas with his second pick. the seattle seahawks will hold on for the victory. the rookie out of texas with the interception late. and the defense comes up huge for the seahawks. dan: they were trying to make something happen in the end zone with another one of those crossing routes, this time to naanee. give earl thoms a lot of credit for picking it off and picking up a win. ian: five san diego turnovers today, second turnover of the day for earl thomas. six seconds remaining. dan: illegal block on the return by earl thomas. thal back it up. but it is a kneel down.
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ian: not even sure why thomas was running. you don't want to chance a fumble in that situation. but it all works out for seattle. the san diego chargers will fall to 1-23 -- 1-2 and will qualify as another slow start for san diego. seattle gets the win 27-20. san diego's mastery over the west coast teams comes to an end. seattle win its 27-20 over san seattle win its 27-20 over san diego. or more on car insurance? do woodchucks chuck wood?
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captioning funded by cbs and ford-- built for the road ahead. >> the fight you will see is brutal. the intensity unlike anything we've seen in nine years of covering this war. u.s. soldiers are locked in a never-ending battle with an enemy that just keeps coming. >> are its men are you facing committed? >> they're more committed than any i have ever seen. one day we killed 31 of them. we could see them diing on the hills. and we were engaging them and we were killing them. and they kept charging us. >> if 9/11 happens again, i want to be the first to die.
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it's my duty as an american muslim to stand between you, the american nonmuslim and the radicals who are trying to attack you. >> pinkston: his plan-- . >> pelley: his plan to build an islamic center near ground zero set off a national uproar and outcry to stop it but we found the plans are well on their way and the islamic prayer space at the heart of the fury is already open. >> before a game a lot of nfl quarterbacks stay by themselves collecting their thoughts, not drew brees. he's the one stoking the fire, tasks usually performed by someone much bigger and more intimidating. >> three, four, we're, ailt, 9,. >> he's a fierce competitor and the most accurate passer in the nfl. we asked him for a demonstration. you'll see the results
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tonight. >> i'm steve kroft. >> i'm lesley stahl. >> i'm bob simon. >> i'm morley safer. >> i'm lara logan. >> i'm scott pelley. those stories around andee rooney tonight on the season premier of "60 minutes." >> this portion of "60 minutes" is sponsored by northern trust, providing solid financial solutions for more than 120 years.
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>> logan: if you want to know how the war is going in afghanistan, there's no better place to go than the tiny american combat outposts all along the border with pakistan. the fight you'll see is brutal,
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the intensity unlike anything we've witnessed in nine years of covering this war. u.s. soldiers from the 101st airborne division are locked in a never-ending battle with a relentless enemy that uses the border as an open door. the soldiers say that, as fast as they can kill them, they just keep coming across the border from safe havens in pakistan, trying to kill as many americans as they can. "60 minutes" was given extraordinary access to the men of the 101st, who are on the frontline of the border fight, operating from around 50 combat outposts and forward operating bases along a 450-mile stretch of the most dangerous frontier in the world. our trip began at combat outpost zerok, just 12 miles from the pakistani border. >> captain john hintz: this one came in yesterday. it's a 107 rocket. >> logan: three minutes after captain john hintz started explaining how to stay alive on his base... >> hintz: then things are going
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great... that's incoming. ( explosion ) >> logan: the first rocket hit. >> hintz: camera crew, where are you? hey, let's go, right here, right here. >> logan: it was the first hour of our first day at combat outpost zerok. ( gunfire) >> let's go! >> logan: already, we were getting a taste of what captain hintz and his men live through every day. and they've been doing this for seven months. within ten minutes, the barrage was over. it had wounded two of hintz's men. >> hintz: what we got going on? >> logan: specialist peter kuyper's shirt was soaked with blood from wounds to his head. they're all used to dealing with injuries here. 40 out of hintz's 88 soldiers have been awarded purple hearts for wounds received in combat. >> all right, well, let's walk up this way a little bit.
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>> logan: the 40-year-old commander from iowa has received three purple hearts himself. this is a tough fight, and you're in one of the worst places. i mean, even for somebody like you, with a rough tour in iraq under your belt, surviving eight roadside bombs... >> hintz: i don't even think that's uncommon, though. i mean, i've got to be honest, my whole company's that. i've got a kid out there that's got eight purple hearts. he just got shot in the head during a battle. >> logan: and he... >> hintz: kid fought. >> logan: ...survived? >> hintz: he survived and he fought for three more hours. i mean, it's just the way these guys are. >> logan: captain hintz commands one of the most dangerous pieces of ground in afghanistan. it may look like a desolate patch of dirt in the middle of nowhere, but this tiny base sits right on one of the main routes used by the enemy to ferry fighters and weapons from pakistan. >> hintz: you can never rest out here, because you know that they want this spot back. and the foreign fighters are very well trained. they carry better weapon systems. they have much more ammunition.
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so, when you get into a fight with them, you know you're in a fight. >> logan: when you say foreign fighters-- from where? >> hintz: pakistan. we're only about 12, 13 miles away from pakistan. and we know we kill a lot of people here. and these guys, it doesn't matter if you kill 30 that day, or it doesn't seem to matter, because they'll be back the next day or the next week. >> logan: with more fighters? >> hintz: yes. >> logan: are the men you're facing committed? >> hintz: they're more committed than anything i've ever seen. one day, we killed 31 of them. we could see them dying on the hills. i mean, we were engaging them and we were killing them, and they kept charging us. >> logan: we obtained video of their enemy from the other side of the border. it's the foreign fighters, like arabs and pakistanis, that hintz says are the most skilled. they lead the local afghans in battle, but both fight in the name of the taliban. how much area around here does the taliban control?
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>> hintz: wow, that's... i have probably 300 square kilometers, and the vast majority is controlled by the taliban. we push hard, we patrol heavy, we go out there, but i would say probably 18 to 20 square kilometers is what i think i own. >> logan: out of 300? >> hintz: yes. >> logan: are there areas here that you... you can't even go into at all, taliban areas? >> hintz: yes. there's multiple areas in this... in this sector that i can't go into. >> logan: i mean, that's incredible. i think people listening to that will just be wondering, "how can we be nine years into this war?" and i mean, you're sitting here surrounded by taliban villages that, in some cases, you can't even go into. >> hintz: i think the challenge is in finding out, you know, how to separate the taliban from the village. >> logan: that's the challenge hintz and his men faced on this mission to a village that's asked for help rebuilding their canal. it's the core of the u.s.
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strategy-- to build relationships with the villages so they don't support the taliban. even though it means driving to an area that's a known staging ground for the taliban and foreign fighters coming in from pakistan, and they get attacked every time they go there, they set out to pay the village a visit... >> well, as long as we don't get stuck today, we're going to be good. >> logan: ... a three-mile trip that took an hour and a half because of the impossible terrain. >> hintz: man, this terrain sucks. you're just hanging up on a big rock, i think, on the left. whoa! >> logan: the speed we're moving at, and the difficulty, i mean, the... it just feels like this is one big target. >> hintz: we are one big target here. we are driving right to the taliban villages. >> logan: they're watching us, and guaranteed they got a spotter sitting right up on this mountain and he's reporting everything back to his chain of command and they are just waiting for us. >> logan: when they arrived at the village, the reception was cool
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>> yeah, that's two of them. >> logan: and we noticed captain hintz was instantly on edge. >> hintz: you don't get a friendly feel here, do you? >> logan: no, not really. >> hintz: no, i don't think so, either. >> logan: the villagers kept their distance, unlike previous visits when they welcomed him. i see them sitting, watching over there. >> hintz: yep. different dynamic. >> logan: captain hintz tracked down the elder who'd invited him here to find out what was going on. >> hintz: the last time we came here, a lot of people came up and talked to us. is there... is there something going on today? is it a time of prayer? >> logan: not even he wanted to talk. it seemed he couldn't wait to get away. >> hintz: i appreciate you talking to me. thank you. >> logan: hintz was disappointed. by now, it felt like a set-up. the captain and his men were uneasy. >> hintz: we'll see how easily we get out of here. tell your guys to be watching, okay? they need to be watching these mountains. they can't just walk along, okay? >> logan: this is what american commanders are dealing with
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every day in villages across afghanistan as they try to carry out their mission. >> hintz: right now, if the taliban is influencing that village or living in that village and we're not, then that's the choice you have: to go with the taliban and live, or to talk to us and support us, and as soon as we leave here, you'll be dead. >> logan: the trip back was long and tense. one of the trucks got stuck. >> ooh, they're up on three wheels. straighten the wheels. >> logan: hintz and his men struggled to free the vehicle, which weighed nearly 13 tons. >> hintz: what's up? we got a hammer or something? >> logan: every second they were on the ground, they were exposed. it was the moment the enemy seemed to be waiting for. ( gunfire ) >> hintz: get in, get in, get in, get in. >> logan: bullets cracked and whistled over our heads. >> hintz: they were hitting all around us. ( gunfire ) >> hintz: they had a lot of ak-47s. they fired r.p.g.s at us.
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once you start hearing the snaps of their rounds, that means they're right on you. >> logan: our cameraman, ray bribiesca, stayed close to the soldiers to capture the fight. >> hintz: we need a fire mission. >> logan: hintz ordered in mortars. ( explosions ) here you can see captain hintz on the hood of our truck, completely exposed to enemy fire. he's trying to secure the 200- pound tow bar so the convoy could get moving. >> hintz: get in the truck, get in the truck. start moving. >> logan: the convoy still had to fight its way though the ambush. after 30 minutes of constant fighting, it was over. hintz believes they killed 15 enemy fighters, with no american
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casualties. his soldiers were relieved, and captain hintz felt lucky to be alive. >> hintz: i had to jump on the hood to get the tow bar up, and so i'm on the hood and rounds are cracking everywhere. it was insane. >> logan: there are more than 12,000 soldiers at dozens of outposts along the border dealing with the same problem as captain hintz. >> commander joel vowell: up on the ridge, those are super highways for the insurgency. >> logan: lieutenant commander joel vowell at forward operating base joyce, less than five miles from the pakistani border, is one of them. >> vowell: most of the people we are fighting are from pakistan. >> logan: is it an endless supply? >> vowell: i don't know if it's endless. >> logan: does it feel that way? >> vowell: it feels that way when you have to fight waves after waves of enemy fighters here that are coming from sanctuary. >> logan: in nearly two weeks with lieutenant vowell and his soldiers, we quickly experienced the relentless pressure they come under.
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once again, complex attacks carried out by a sophisticated enemy that doesn't back down. >> major john campbell: it's like any other border between any other country. you can't put a fence up there and stop everyone from coming over. >> logan: major general john campbell is the man lieutenant vowell and captain hintz report to. he's the commander of the 101st airborne division, in charge of some 30,000 soldiers here, and the border is his problem. >> campbell: you cannot talk about afghanistan without talking about pakistan, i believe. >> logan: general campbell flew us over some of the 450 miles of the border that he's responsible for. >> campbell: you're in pakistan right now; now, you're in afghanistan. >> logan: he's in regular contact with the pakistani military, and says the relationship is improving a little more every day. >> campbell: we would hope that they would do more within their capacity to stop people-- command and control-- and
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elements that come across the border in afghanistan and... and i would agree with that. i think they have tried to do some stuff. is it enough? no. >> logan: it's not even close to enough. >> campbell: can they... can they do more? yes. >> logan: can they do a lot more? >> campbell: can they do a lot more? i would agree. >> go, let's go, let's go. >> logan: until they do, it's hard to see how u.s. soldiers at places like combat outpost zerok can make any real progress in a fight that's claimed more american lives this year than any other. what's the hardest thing you've had to deal with? >> hintz: it's losing my soldiers. i lost a 18-year-old kid in iraq. i've lost a 20-year-old kid in afghanistan. just lost a 29-year-old n.c.o. a few weeks ago; stepped on a landmine. you're a failure because you didn't take them home. >> logan: i don't think anyone would call that a failure. i think people understand that, in war and in combat, you lose soldiers. >> hintz: everybody knows in war, you lose people. but just not your people.
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>> logan: as we left captain hintz and his men, their mission at zerok was coming to an end and new soldiers were pouring in to take over this fight. is it your sense that you're winning here? >> hintz: i think we're winning. i think we're winning. >> logan: you don't look convinced. >> hintz: i'm not 100% convinced. i mean, but... but you can't look at it like we're losing. i'm not going to come here and lose. so, do i think we've gained ground? yes. is it enough ground? no. i would like to say that if, given another six months here, i could bring in the next village, the next two villages, and bring them to my side... >> logan: but you can't. >> hintz: i can't. i'll never give up on it, but at times, i wonder if i walk out of here tomorrow, where's this place at? >> logan: where do you think? >> hintz: well, it's lost. >> cbs money watch update.
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>> mitchell: good evening. top democrats said today they'll put off a vote on extending tax cuts until after the november elections. an auction of artwork held by bankrupt investment house lehman brothers raised more than $12 million. and the movie "wall street, money never sleeps" was the big winner at the box office. i'm russ mitchell. cbs news.
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>> pelley: a plan to build an islamic community center near ground zero set off a national controversy with anger, passion and more than a little misinformation. opponents whipped up a fury calling the project a grotesque mega-mosque tied to terrorism. tonight, for the first time, you're going to see the plans for the center, and you'll hear from the key players, including the people behind the mosque. ironically, the man who has the biggest stake in all of this has
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been almost completely out of the public eye. he's the developer who owns the project, and he took us to the spot that his critics call an affront to the memory of 9/11. so this is what the controversy is about. >> sharif el-gamal: it is. >> pelley: this is the focus of outrage. it's a former burlington coat factory store on a dingy block in lower manhattan. real estate developer sharif el- gamal paid $4.5 million for it. so you bought this building roughly how long ago? >> el-gamal: a year ago, a little bit over a year ago. july of 2009. >> pelley: and before you bought it, what was here? >> el-gamal: it was an abandoned piece of real estate. >> pelley: there was nothing in here. >> el-gamal: nothing. it had been vacant since 9/11. >> pelley: vacant because part
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of the landing gear from one of the hijacked planes crashed through the roof. el-gamal says he will tear this down to create a 16-story islamic community center. i don't remember seeing this before. >> el-gamal: we've never showed it to anyone. >> pelley: what are some of the things you have here? >> el-gamal: a restaurant, child care facilities, a pool, a media tech library, a world-class auditorium that will seat up to 500 people. >> pelley: he says membership will be open to all, but around 10% of the space, two floors, will be devoted to an islamic prayer room. el-gamal is a brash 37-year-old muslim and lifelong new yorker who develops apartments and offices. he says he got his idea from this neighborhood center where he was a member, the jewish community center. el-gamal thought his project would be a step up for a seedy part of downtown, and the community enthusiastically agreed. the plan was endorsed by the mayor, the borough president, and the community board. but that was last spring. today, el-gamal is described on the internet as an islamic
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supremacist. who are you? >> el-gamal: i'm an american, i'm a new yorker, born in methodist hospital in brooklyn, to a polish catholic mother, to an egyptian father. >> pelley: let me make sure i have this straight-- you are a muslim who married a christian girl. your mother is catholic. and you joined the jewish community center on the west side of manhattan. >> el-gamal: i did. that's new york, though. that's new york. >> pelley: show me where ground zero is from here. if real estate is about location, the question is, how close is too close? we started at el-gamal's building and headed to the world trade center. you can't see ground zero from here, but when you make the corner... >> el-gamal: the world trade center is two blocks over there. >> pelley: ... in the distance here, you can see the cranes where the new world trade center buildings are going up. >> el-gamal: yes. >> pelley: it took us another
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two minutes to walk to the edge of what the government officially designates as ground zero. but what do you say to those people who say that it is painful for them to have the idea of a mosque, even though it is two and a half blocks away? >> el-gamal: i was affected by the horrific events that happened that day, as well. and i do not hold myself or my faith accountable for what happened during that horrific day. >> pelley: of course, the national argument isn't about measuring the length of two city blocks; it's about the distance between perceptions. if you believe islam is a moral religion hijacked by terrorists, proximity doesn't matter. if you believe islam condones 9/11, this is too close. it got the unanimous approval of the community board >> pamela geller: yes. >> pelley: the people who live down there. >> geller: well... >> pelley: how did this become your business? >> geller: it's not my business, it's america's business. >> pelley: pamela geller is a key figure in all of this.
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she's the islamic center's most ardent opponent. geller is a former new york media executive who writes a politically far right blog that mixes news, opinion, and conspiracy theories. >> geller: we live in a multi- cultural society, a pluralistic society with all different kinds of people. and how do we do that? we do that by getting along. and you don't build a 15 story, uh, mega-mosque at ground zero and... and talk... and say that it's healing and say that it's outreach. don't spit in my face and tell me it's raining. >> pelley: last december, geller's appears to have been the first blog to rename the community center "the mosque at ground zero." five months later, in may, a committee of the lower manhattan community board approved the project unanimously. that led geller to organize a protest at the next board meeting. but all the same, the board
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approved the project again, 29 to one. then, on june 6, geller held a rally at the world trade center. >> not at ground zero. >> pelley: by late summer, the community board had approved the center four times. but major media had picked up pam geller's label, and across the country, politicians exploited the debate. >> as governor, i will use the power of eminent domain to stop the mosque. >> pelley: geller kept writing, calling the project "an act of jihad," "a grotesque flag of conquest on ground zero." to what degree are you obliged to tell the truth in your blog? >> geller: that's all i do is tell the truth. >> pelley: to be accurate in your blog? >> geller: okay, scott. >> pelley: you moved the mosque to ground zero. it's not going to be there. it was never intended to be there. >> geller: that building is ground zero. and i will say something else-- truth is the new hate speech. and you and i live in so tawdry
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an age that just telling the truth makes you a hero-- and yet there are so few heroes-- or makes you a devil in the eyes of the media. that's all i do is tell the truth. >> pelley: you think you're seen as a devil in the eyes of the media? >> geller: absolutely. >> pelley: you don't seem to mind that too much. >> geller: i do mind it very much. what am i going to do, shut up? you're never going to shut me up. >> we will prevail. >> pelley: she's been her loudest condemning the head imam of the islamic center, the spiritual leader. she described the rhetoric of imam feisal abdul rauf as "ugly, racist, anti-american, anti- semitic." you've been called a jihadi, a friend of terrorists, a man who can't be trusted. so who are you? >> imam feisal abdul rauf: i'm a man of peace, scott. >> allah... >> pelley: imam feisal abdul rauf has led a congregation 12 blocks from the world trade center for nearly three decades. >> feisal: the reason there is so much antipathy to our faith is because of the radicals, the suicide bombers.
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that is not islam. we reject it. >> pelley: born in kuwait, he's been an american citizen 31 years. most people don't know, but he was picked by the bush administration to travel the muslim world, explaining the virtues of america, and he's still doing that for the government today. now, he's afraid there's danger this controversy could lead to violence. i wonder if you understand why many families who lost a loved one on 9/11 are hurt by this. >> feisal: i'm extremely sensitive to the feelings of the families of 9/11. >> pelley: then why did you do it? >> feisal: because we wanted to prevent another 9/11. we wanted to... we wanted a platform that enable us to speak, to strengthen the voice of the moderates. >> pelley: if you are so deeply
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concerned about the danger in america and the danger abroad, why not just move it out of the neighborhood? >> feisal: because it's the right thing to do. it's the right thing to do. our community wants it, and now, america needs it and the muslim world needs it. >> pelley: what do you mean, america needs it? >> feisal: i'll tell you why scott. we have to wage peace. the military campaign against the radical extremists from my faith community is a military campaign. the campaign for winning hearts and minds is an important part of that campaign-- we know how to do it and we're committed to doing it. we are ready, willing, and able to serve our country and serve
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our faith tradition. >> pelley: and to that widow or that child who lost a parent, who is a perfectly reasonable person and believes that this is wrong, you say what? >> feisal: first, we say we have condemned 9/11. i pray for the souls of your loved lost ones. if 9/11 happens there again, i want to be the first to die. muslims want to stand right there to say that we are here. it's my duty as an american muslim to stand between you, the american non-muslim, and the radicals who are trying to attack you. >> pelley: imam feisal told us he'll have a board of directors for the center made up of muslims, christians and jews, and he'll ask the u.s.
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government to approve sources of funding. it occurred to us that there is, of course, another ground zero. 184 people were killed at the pentagon on 9/11. this face of the pentagon was rebuilt, and a memorial and pentagon chapel opened on the spot where the airplane hit. for eight years now, every weekday at 2:00, you can hear the islamic call to prayer in this chapel. every faith is welcome. islamic servicemen and civilians are among those who use the chapel most often. the pentagon chaplain in charge is colonel daniel minjares. >> minjares: i think this is representative of america-- again, not just army values, but what america... the best of what america represents, that various groups, various faith traditions can all use the same building. we understand each other better, and we support one another.
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>> pelley: and there is nothing inconsistent about hearing the islamic call to prayer at ground zero at the pentagon? >> minjares: not for me, there isn't. >> pelley: back in new york, the developer doesn't need permission to go ahead. he's free to build if he can raise the money, which could be as much as $100 million. and this is the prayer space? >> el-gamal: this is the prayer space. >> pelley: can we walk down there? >> el-gamal: yes, we can. >> pelley: one thing most people don't know is that the prayer space part of the project already exists. hundreds of muslims have been worshiping in the abandoned building for more than a year, ever since a nearby mosque lost its lease. the mosque near ground zero is a fact. the only question is whether the community center will go ahead. the islamic community center will open? >> feisal: god willing. >> pelley: tell me what you intend. >> feisal: i intend to see this project succeed.
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>> kroft: in the annals of professional sports, few athletes have ever been as loved, admired and respected by their hometown fans as saints quarterback drew brees. in new orleans, they call him "cool brees" or "bree-jus," for resurrecting a devastated city, reviving a half-dead franchise, and leading them to the super bowl championship. and at a time when a few high profile nfl stars are serving jail time or suspensions for criminal or unacceptable conduct, brees' activism and philanthropy have served to remind critics of big time sports that the news is not always bad.
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in a nine-year nfl career, brees has often been under-appreciated and overlooked, but he is finally being recognized for what he is, an undersized athletic freak who, in the past four years, has completed more passes and thrown for more yardage than peyton manning, tom brady, or brett favre. who's the best quarterback in the nfl? >> drew brees: is this like if you're voting for student council president and you can't vote for yourself? >> kroft: no, you can vote for yourself. >> brees: ( laughs ) >> kroft: drew brees is much too smart to answer the question, but he is clearly pleased to finally be included in the conversation. in fact, you can hear of talk around the league that he is not only the nfl's top passer, but maybe its best player. and the person who seems to be the least surprised is brees himself. >> brees: i'm a very modest person, but i am also extremely confident.
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and if you put me in the situation or in the moment, i'm going to have some swagger, i'm going to have some... some cockiness. and you know, there's not anything i don't think that i can do or accomplish. >> kroft: in fact, he pretty much proved that everywhere he's been. but it took a long time to convince people, and there were lots of obstacles to be overcome. at six feet tall, football experts always considered him too short to be a big-time quarterback, not big enough to see over the on-rushing linemen and to spot receivers downfield. >> brees: i don't believe that you can be too short as a quarterback. it's not about height; it's about what you have here and right here. >> kroft: and in his case, it's about more than just heart and brains; it's about agility and accuracy. last year, the program "sports science" ran a segment showing him throwing ten passes at an archer's target, and hitting the bull's eye dead center all ten times
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but most of all, it's about brees' athleticism and a skill package that's allowed him to master every sport he has ever tried. you were a pretty good tennis player, right? >> brees: i played, i did, yes. >> kroft: against people that turned out to be pretty good professional players. >> brees: i was going to let you bring that up. i know andy roddick's probably tired about me talking about how many times i beat him when we were kids. i beat him the first three times, and he beat me the last time in pretty convincing fashion. >> kroft: so you retired. >> brees: i knew that my direction in life was going elsewhere. >> kroft: when you grew up in texas, the only sport that mattered was football. and when brees somehow managed to lead austin's westlake high school to the state championship, not one of the big texas universities ever offered a scholarship. so he went to purdue, where he was a two-time all american and heisman trophy finalist, and shattered virtually every big ten passing record on the books. do you get some personal satisfaction out of that? >> brees: there's always a
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little bit of personal satisfaction when you prove somebody wrong. in the nfl, there were more doubters, even after he was drafted by san diego in 2001 and led them the chargers to the playoffs three years later. the team snubbed him by signing six-foot-five-inch rookie philip rivers as their quarterback of the future. the next year, in the final game of his san diego contract, his career nearly ended. >> i think drew brees got hurt on that play going for the football. >> kroft: his throwing shoulder had been dislocated, and his rotator cuff and labrum torn, but it was the beginning of a wonderful story. there were people that said it was inoperable, that it couldn't be fixed in surgery. there was a chance you would never play again. >> brees: oh, it was career threatening, a career- threatening right shoulder disloc

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